If you've had a gnawing feeling that your tax professional prepares your return but doesn't plan ahead to make you money, this episode is for you.
This week, we unpack what happens when a comfortable CPA relationship stops being a strategic one: a founder two weeks from signing a $25 million roll-up whose firm never mentioned Section 1202, a $5 million earner researching the Augusta rule with an AI chatbot at night, and two clients with the same breakout year and very different tax bills.
The conversations that never happened:
1. A founder was two weeks from rolling roughly $25 million of businesses into one new company. His CPA firm of 20 years first told him it would be a taxable sale. He found the Section 351 route himself with an AI chatbot, and nobody had raised Section 1202, the qualified small business stock rule that, if the structure qualifies, could keep potentially hundreds of millions of dollars of his future gain tax-free.
2. A financial advisor earning about $5 million a year, headed for a $2 million-plus tax bill, was asking an AI chatbot about the Augusta rule to shelter $15,000 to $30,000. Small strategies like that snowball over 10 to 15 years, but the first conversation should be about the big moves, and the client shouldn't be the one doing the research.
3. Two long-term clients who had been earning $1 million to $2 million a year both broke out in the same year, to well over $5 million of taxable income. One was too busy to meet. The other called in March, again in the summer, and again in October, when a railroad took the $2 million property he'd just bought, by eminent domain, for $6 million. Kevin estimates the tax at around $3.5 million with no planning. Because we'd been talking all year, we're tracking closer to a 3% effective rate.
4. By Mike's estimate, about 95% of the people who prepare tax returns are preparers, not strategists. If you're the one bringing ideas to your CPA every year, or no ideas are coming at all, that gnawing feeling is worth trusting.
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Chapters
[00:00] "I Don't Believe My CPA Anymore"
[01:00] Preparers vs. Strategists: It's Not the CPA's Fault
[01:42] A $25 Million Roll-Up and a 20-Year CPA Relationship
[04:31] "Did Your CPAs Ever Talk to You About 1202?"
[06:29] The CPA's Reply: Does That Sound Like a Partnership?
[10:00] A $5 Million Earner, an AI Chatbot and the Augusta Rule
[13:03] Why Tax Planning Is a Two-Way Street
[14:30] Two Clients, One Breakout Year and an Eminent Domain Surprise
[19:21] What Proactive Planning Costs, and What It Saves
[20:37] Preparer or Strategist? Trust Your Gut